Patience: The Hard Part Of Value Investing

21-Dec-2011

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An eternal optimist, Liu-Yue built two social enterprises to help make the world a better place. Liu-Yue co-founded Oxstones Investment Club a searchable content platform and business tools for knowledge sharing and financial education. Oxstones.com also provides investors with direct access to U.S. commercial real estate opportunities and other alternative investments. In addition, Liu-Yue also co-founded Cute Brands a cause-oriented character brand management and brand licensing company that creates social awareness on global issues and societal challenges through character creations. Prior to his entrepreneurial endeavors, Liu-Yue worked as an Executive Associate at M&T Bank in the Structured Real Estate Finance Group where he worked with senior management on multiple bank-wide risk management projects. He also had a dual role as a commercial banker advising UHNWIs and family offices on investments, credit, and banking needs while focused on residential CRE, infrastructure development, and affordable housing projects. Prior to M&T, he held a number of positions in Latin American equities and bonds investment groups at SBC Warburg Dillon Read (Swiss Bank), OFFITBANK (the wealth management division of Wachovia Bank), and in small cap equities at Steinberg Priest Capital Management (family office). Liu-Yue has an MBA specializing in investment management and strategy from Georgetown University and a Bachelor of Science in Finance and Marketing from Stern School of Business at NYU. He also completed graduate studies in international management at the University of Oxford, Trinity College.







From , by Adib Motiwala (@adibmoti), founder and President ofMotiwala Capital

I came across an excellent value investing related website from a fund manager in Canada. The website is called Value Investigator by Irwin A. Michael who runs the ABC Funds in Canada.

They have a section where they provide commentary on some of their current ideas – Value Favorites. The Value Vault section contains old ideas that have been sold. The Value Library section contains some good articles and their commentary on value ideas. I found an excellent article in this list that talks about the toughest aspect of being a value investor – and that is being PATIENT.

I am taking the liberty to quote some relevant parts here:

“Firstly, let me admit that the easy part of value investing is finding cheap stocks. We start off by diligently researching a company’s balance sheet, prospects, hidden assets, potential liabilities, and etcetera. As a second line of defense, we will also review a company’s technicals or stock price chart patterns to give us a trading perspective. Ultimately, if a stock cuts it, we attempt to buy our position. This process, in all candour, is the easy part of value investing. Now the hard part of value investing begins… and that is the patience of waiting it out until the general market (i.e. other investors) catches on to our new investment purchase. The realization of our ultimate price target, unfortunately, may take weeks, months or even years to play itself out.”

In all three cases, their market prices declined below our initial purchase price. At times it appeared that no one even cared about these fundamentally cheap stocks in spite of the fact that all three offered dividend yields of 1.5 to 2.5%. Moreover it was of little consolation to investors that these shares were trading at over 50% below their net asset or intrinsic value. We were questioned many times why these stocks traded so poorly and when (heaven forbid) might we throw in the towel and sell out. Clearly, patience and discipline became the hard part of value investing.

“In conclusion, we offer the following observations:

At the early stages of value purchases there is considerable frustration and investment agony until a particular stock’s value is recognized and its share price climbs.

Once recognized, the value stock rapidly runs up in price. This sudden appreciation and transformation from value to momentum share play will equally test a value investor’s resolve regarding the “when to sell” decision.

When all is said and done, I honestly believe that fundamental value investing, notwithstanding the time element, always wins out in the end.”


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